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Friday, 5 August 2011
Tramcar accident, Millbrook, Near Stalybridge, Greater Manchester 1908
Tramcar accident, Millbrook, Near Stalybridge, Greater Manchester, April 2nd, 1908. Unfortunately I have not been able to locate whereabouts in Millbrook this accident happened. In the background of the postcard is a large building with at least three stories, possibly a mill. There is one mill left in Millbrook but I don't think it is this one. There were more mills there in the past. If any eagle-eyed readers can pinpoint the location of this accident I'll be very grateful. The tram was operated by 'The Stalybridge, Hyde, Mossley & Dukinfield Joint Transport and Electricity Board.' The tram route ran along the Huddersfield Road (on the Google map below, from near the bottom left to the top right corner). Postcard publisher not credited. The postcard was very faded so I've had to edit it to bring out the details and contrast. Notice the two girls on the extreme right of the picture. For more old photographs visit Sepia Saturday. The Google map below shows Millbrook, but not necessarily the scene of this accident.
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Not such a good end for the riders that day, hopefully nobody was seriously hurt, and I can bet it was quite a time trying to get it out of there! great post card!
ReplyDeleteI've always been curious as to why accidents or disasters were made into postcards. Guess they make a good visual but not so good for those involved.
ReplyDeleteIt makes me wonder how it got into that position.
ReplyDeleteI wonder how it got there too.
ReplyDeleteOh wow...someone messed up.
ReplyDeleteHave you found a news story to go with it? That might interesting.
Well that gave the locals plenty to gawp at and gossip about for a good while I’ll bet. Retrieving the car would have been no easy task either.
ReplyDeleteI hadn't noticed the two girls until I enlarged the picture. and then I also saw all the boys who were clambering through the gap left in the wall.
ReplyDeleteI travelled through Millbrook using Google Streetview (which was fun) but I couldn't find it either. The closest I got was a mention of an accident in Ditchcroft, but I cannot locate this Ditchcroft.
ReplyDeleteLook for the train station that was where grove Road is now. This looks like its there from pictures I have seen of the old grove Road station
DeleteHoward, this is an amazing photo. It would have been very scary to be on that streetcar and falling down that ditch! Thanks for your interesting SS post,
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Interesting that someone was there quick with a camera to document it and then sell it. It's like one I have a street in San Francisco following the 1906 earthquake. The seller even attached a Chinese coin to the SF card, implying it had been found in the ruins. There's always somebody ready to make a buck.
ReplyDeleteI think that postcards of disasters/accidents like this were a way early photographers could make easy money on something newspapers could not do. A picture worth 1000 words etc. Sold like broadsheets to people who heard about the incident but were not there.
ReplyDeleteI have to confess that the only building I know in Stalybridge is the Station Buffet Bar. I must explain in my own defense that it is such an historic and award-winning buffet- bar. with an unrivaled range of real ale, everytime I visit the town I never leave the station!
ReplyDeleteWell the good thing is now that its posted on a blog someone else googling one day may link up and provide more details to this story. :) Ah people were as much lookie loos to an accident back then as they are today, but yeah, I dont see us all photographing and sending them as postcards, but then again they didnt have it going up all over tv and the internet like we do today
ReplyDeleteWow! Great postcard, although the subject matter is tragic. I hope no one was seriously hurt, but without additional information we can only speculate. At least there's a date on the photo. Good luck finding out more!
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ReplyDeleteTrams Seemed To Be Forever Crashing! Several Such incidents were also recorded in my neck of the wood (Halifax). Have you ever been to The Industrial Museum in Bradford? they have several trams displayed that you can look at from the inside.Amazing how narrow & cramped they were.They dont look very safe.No wonder they had problems on Hills,Bends & Bridges!
ReplyDeleteYou are pretty much spot on with the map. The accident occured in 1908 a few metres to the west of the present entrance to Stalybridge Country Park (at the junction of Huddersfield Road and Hartley Street), Millbrook. The tram was certainly coming from Stalybridge, gathered far too much speed on the steep stretch towards Ditchcroft and went off the rails where Huddersfield Road turns sharply left. The house on the left of the postcard still exists. It is at the corner of Huddersfield Road and Grove Road (on Streetview, a woman and her daughter in red and pink tops are passing in front). The parapet of the bridge is still there too but the ditch itself has been filled up. Sadly it seems one person died in the accident.
ReplyDeleteThe postcard showing the tram accident happened at Mossley Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire in 1911. The tram was coming down Stamford Rd a steep incline with a very sharp bend were it lost control smashing through a wall and onto the rail tracks. I think some people were killed
ReplyDeleteIf it is this accident in 1911. The guard, my great grandfather, was killed. Al the other passengers survived.
DeleteI've added a current photo of the area in Millbrook on my blog at http://cooperfarm.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/dithcroft.html. As Sebastien says, the accident site is in what is now the Country Park, and the embankment has been filled in. However, if you cross the road and look down from the bridge - you will see how steep the drop is!
ReplyDeleteThe mill in the background is no longer there. It was destroyed by fire in (I believe) the '70s. Again a tragic story, as a worker was trapped on the roof and decided to jump before the fire could reach him.
Excellent, thanks for the info and picture
DeleteYes, the tram came off the road with passengers on board, the driver died. If you come from Stalybridge centre along Huddersfield Rd, eventually you come to the declining “s” bend now with traffic lights at the bottom, just around the bend at the bottom you will see over to your right a grassed area, this is where the tram went over from the road, then it was a drop down, this today is filled in and grassed over. Very sad story.
DeleteThe "accident" appears to be almost the same as one four years earlier:
ReplyDeletehttp://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/68711597
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It's not millbrook it is a place call Mossley it is the train Bridge at the bottom of Stamford road and it was 1911 August the 03 at 17:07 pm.
ReplyDeleteI know this because my son was there.
He is in the photo looking at the camera wearing no hat.
I have a photo of him.
thats a totally different accident.my family are from mossley but we moved to millbrook in 1961...if it was the mossley accident there would be a railway lunes not a stream
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The house in the background has been my parents' home since 1962. It is No 395 Huddersfield Rd, at the bottom of ditchcroft, near the junction of Grove Rd. Where the tram is is now the entrance to Stalybridge Country Park.
ReplyDeleteThe vivid depiction of the tramcar accident near Millbrook is both captivating and sobering, offering a poignant glimpse into the perils of early transportation. The historical context adds depth to the narrative, highlighting the advancements in safety measures since then. It's a stark reminder of how far we've come in ensuring passenger safety. On a related note, for those interested in historical transportation relics, it might be intriguing to explore avenues like scrap car removal sydney to uncover hidden treasures from the past.
ReplyDeletei know exactly where in millbrook were the tram accident occurred.coming from staltbridge on huddersfield rd at the bottom of ditchcroft S bend its on the right hand side behind the black stone wall
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